Lorgar versus Anakin Skywalker!! Finally, the Emperor had enough and ordered the Ultramarines to make an example of him. In addition of being tasked of punishing the Thousand Sons, it is (not that) subtly hinted that the Space Wolves were tasked to eliminate the Second and Eleventh Legions. It’s a complicated question with some Primarchs being assault monsters, some better at range, whole others are less individually potent but strongly buff their armies. He probably would have told lorgar they were just powerful warp entities, aberrant and powerful but certainly not gods. EDIT: I’ve been told that I’ve neglected the Xenos scum, so please see my revised answer below. In a fight to the death!! not empowered) loses against everyone, including Alpharius. Also of note, regular Lorgar (i.e. This is probably a bit of an over simplification, but in essence I mean that Lorgar is an adept ritualist with great knowledge of how to manipulate other powers within the warp to accomplish his psychic feats, where Magnus has a more academic and personal mastery of shaping the raw power of the warp. Guilman was almost killed by 10 or 12 by Alpha Legion Astartes. Mano a mano. He just had a very different philosophy and belief structure to … Though in the 30k rules he's only allowed Divination and Telekinesis (even as Lorgar Transfigured with elevated powers). And GOD IT’S A LONG ANSWER AND A PAIN TO READ EVEN FOR SPELLCHECKING! ... "disciple that is powerful but who wants his master's place and more power" relationship. As said in the OP, Leman Russ is the Emperor's executioner. Hm, the only exception was Magnus. Lorgar represents faith and devotion to a cause (at first to the Emperor, later to the Gods of Chaos). Lorgar grew to maturity upon the planet Colchis, a Feudal World under the sway of a single, all-powerful religious caste known as the Covenant. As for how Lorgar would have reacted, well, it is possible he would have gone and immediately sought them out but that seems unlikely if the Emperor hasn't shattered his faith like he did at Monarchia proper. FIGHT!!! So as usual, it’s clear as mud. I always imagined Lorgar was like the D&D Warlock to Magnus being a Wizard/Sorcerer. He was powerful from the beginning. Lorgar was never weak or a "sissy", he always had the potential to be as powerful or aggressive as any of his brothers. A: The are geniuses, with exceptional charisma and warfare, but in terms of physical strength they weren't so powerful. The priests of this primitive faith preached that one day, a supreme being would come to lead them into a new age. Perhaps "powerful psyker" doesn't have to mean "has access to absolutely every possible discipline other people in his faction can use." Lorgar responded by penning the original Lectitio Divinitatus, which would much later form the core of the beliefs of the Temple of the Saviour Emperor. During the heresy the most powerful were Lorgar and Horus. With just their favourite weapons and in the The THUUUUUUUNDERDOME!!! Tho he was actually unarmed then. TODAAY ON PPPPPPAY PER VIEWWWW.